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Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 239	Posted - 2011.12.20 01:21:00 - [1] - Quote i dunno guys, im still seeing Drake and Cane blobs (with a sprinkle of Oracle and Tornado) raping everything. i still fit autos on my Myrm, and I still fly the Gila over the Ishtar. i think the Talos and Mega are wonderful ships, and will use them more once i get large t2's, but medium blasters still suck because their respective boats suck (Vigi and Proteus being exceptions).
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 239	Posted - 2011.12.20 02:38:00 - [2] - Quote the cyclone wipes the floor with the brutix; its tank is multifold better, and it has better damage projection. and trust me, you wont be seeing more hybrid boats. i havent seen a single successful "hybrid" gang across all FW militias since Crucible hit.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 240	Posted - 2011.12.20 02:52:00 - [3] - Quote thats exactly why they have failed so miserably, and keep on failing. an entire race is useless (save a few boats), yet theyre afraid to make ONE stinking ship viable in the current meta.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 241	Posted - 2011.12.20 07:28:00 - [4] - Quote blaster boats need to go faster still, and medium rails are still horrendous. unusable even, on anything except the Proteus. everyone is arguing that blasters fill this niche role now. fine. improve medium rails so that hybrid boats can have something more than a niche role.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 244	Posted - 2011.12.20 17:40:00 - [5] - Quote Syme wrote: Lots of dislike for med rails but try them on an Astarte and they do ok. The real buff for Gal has been the speed and agility boost. Since Crucible came out and I noticed a decent chenge in agility I've added an agility implant and Gal ships now behave as ships rather than flying bricks. please...i tried the rails on the Astarte. dps is pathetic and u cant fit a decent tank. medium rails still require too much power and CPU.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 244	Posted - 2011.12.21 19:38:00 - [6] - Quote to be honest, a rack of 425's on a navy mega/ mega / hype, along with 4-5 sentry drones puts out some impressive damage, even with armor setup. if shield setup, the navy mega can project almost 1k DPS past 50km. in other words, i think large rails outclass mega pulses right now. however, large rails were not the TRUE issue. medium rails and ship bonuses are in dire need of fixing. and i think we've all decided blasters are ok in the niche role.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 245	Posted - 2011.12.22 17:11:00 - [7] - Quote this discussion has gotten really stupid. i think the reality is that there isnt really a reason to fly anything else except Canes, Drakes, Baddons and Tornados as things stand right now. blaster boats have a place in small gang pvp, but who cares? Gallente need a fleet-viable boat. medium rails need serious tweaking because there's no reason the Deimos or Eagle shouldnt be able to do what the Zealot can.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 245	Posted - 2011.12.22 17:15:00 - [8] - Quote so maybe like 50-100 people?
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2011.12.28 19:05:00 - [9] - Quote to summarize: blasters suck because their respective ships suck (Proteus, Vigi and Vindi are exceptions). "Brawling" has not been a viable tactic for years. medium rails are a mockery of turrets. they cant be fit properly on ANYTHING. medium rails require a +20-30% dps increase in addition to decreases in pg and cpu. large rails are good, therefore giving BS pilots options (large blasters for close to medium range, rails for anything 40km+)
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 303	Posted - 2012.01.04 02:47:00 - [10] - Quote ElCholo wrote: Confirming that Gallente ships are terrible. confirming that youre still a goddamn troll

Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 312	Posted - 2012.01.05 18:08:00 - [11] - Quote if properly flown, those Tornadoes would have kited and shredded everything from 50-70km (and if they had some tackle on the gate). im not even gonna bother dissecting the scenario. it's bullshit, and you could have achieved better results with Canes, Drakes and their respective logis. keep trying to prove this wrong though, i am curious about what you can come up with. Diemosts are actually quite decent in small gang engagements (and always were), as are the Proteus, Talos, Brutix, Myrm, Ishtar, etc. Canes and Drakes do this job much better (more HP and vastly better damage projection). Logis and neuters make every piece of ship look good. if there's no reason to fly ships other than Canes and Drakes, EVE's pvp has not been fixed. have fun with your blaster boats in small gang engagements. everyone is happy for you. hell, im happy for me because my solo Diemost and Ishtar are a little bit better. but dont spill your bs all over the forums trying to convince people like myself, who have flown nothing but Gallente since 2006 and also currently, that hybrids and their ships are fine all of a sudden. you're inadvertently doing a disservice to the community, due to your detachment from serious fleet work and the majority of EVE's reality.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 312	Posted - 2012.01.05 18:21:00 - [12] - Quote just admit that medium rails need fixing. that's all i ask.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 315	Posted - 2012.01.06 06:01:00 - [13] - Quote null buff - awesome rail astarte - lawl. next up: ashimmu, logi, rail astarte gang --> rails dont need buffing!
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 315	Posted - 2012.01.06 06:18:00 - [14] - Quote ElCholo wrote: Hungry Eyes wrote: just admit that medium rails need fixing. that's all i ask. I've never used medium rails, so unlike ever forum ***** on here who feel blasters need to be fixed because of eft numbers, I won't say they do or don't for lack of experience with them. and for the record, i never stated this. i simply dont want people to think that the hybrid buff was fine, just because blasters are now better in small gang scenarios. however, it is still impossible to fit a rack of 250mm's on anything except an Astarte and Proteus, while retaining a semi-decent tank.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 321	Posted - 2012.01.07 19:51:00 - [15] - Quote im just curious why people keep comparing the Deimos to the Vagabond. the Vaga is not used any longer, and has been fully replaced by the Cynabal. this OP beast can go 3.5km/s with heat, spraying everything with ~650 DPS while having ~45k EHP. you have to be at least a bit of a douchebag to fly one of these. as to why CCP tards have been allowing this for months is beyond me. the shield Deimos explodes when anything looks at it funny. even with the null changes, you have half of the Cynabal's EHP, and do 100 less DPS. the AHAC Deimos is TOO SLOW (dual prop or not). even with the null buff, you'll be doing next to no DPS past 20km. AHAC Deimos will never roll with the Zealots, which can project EM/Therm damage out to 40km+ confirming that AC's are STILL best for my Myrm. goddamn it CCP, just fix rails.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 322	Posted - 2012.01.08 20:04:00 - [16] - Quote the remnants of HAC role (sniping) has been stolen by tier 3 bc's.tier 2 BC's nullified close to medium range HAC setups years ago. all that is left for HAC's now is ARMOUR HACS!!!! with logi support, which is basically just the Zealot and the gimped Deimos.
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 322	Posted - 2012.01.09 00:05:00 - [17] - Quote i guess i meant anywhere between close to medium range. Machs, Cynabals, nano Pests, Canes can all dictate ranges on their counterparts. medium range is where it's at (20-50km). point blank engagements rarely occur. maybe once in a blue moon, then Liang writes blogs about it within scram range, Gallente rule, I'll give you that. the problem is, AC's get the best of both worlds. you can brawl ok, and do fantastically at medium range. all this with one turret type. how does this make sense? the only thing required to make this game decent once again is to simply nerf something relating to AC's. falloff, TE's, ship bonuses, whatever. AC's are the faceroll of EVE. unfortunately, i wont be fitting rails on my Myrm until theyre buffed. you can fit 200's on a shield Myrm, but theyre outperformed by 425 AC's even with the null buff, 425's >>>> Neutrons (unless at point blank). TLDR: AC's OP, fly Matar to win, flying point blank range ships is a huge gamble and only fail fleets fail against these boats.

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